Copyright © 1995-2023 Michael P. Murray & Mike's Clock Clinic
Mike Murray Memberships: NAWCC
P. O. Box 562
1151 D Street
Fossil, OR 97830-0562
The P.O. Box is for the USPS only and should be removed for all other carriers.
Please do NOT call or E-mail unless you have read this entire Web page
E-mail address: Mike@telechron.us (Preferred contact method)
Jefferson Golden Hour, Helm, Minute, Secret, & Suspense Clock Motors
My business is rebuilding your original motor, when possible.
I am able to rebuilt all Jefferson "Golden" motors. All of these motors cost
$250.00 plus $20.00 priority mail (Canada is $45.00) and has a 2-year warranty, which
brings your total cost to $270.00. This is only for the older original clock motor which
were made by International Register and some Intermatic.
The internal coil does short out over time and even if your motor passes the heat test,
(details below) I cannot be positive that your coil has the strength to do its job. Therefore
with any original motor I can only offer 1/2 ($125.00) refund should it fail during the 2-year
warranty. If I have another in stock, then I will offer to try another but that would be
the end of the warranty because I cannot offer a warranty in perpetude on these old motors.
I try and rebuild your old motor but if that's not possible then I may have a old original
motor and that would add $100.00 for a total of $370.00 which included the $20.00 shipping and
handling.
I do not know of any substitute.
For the Original Golden Hour Motors please click on the preceding link
to go to Timesavers, Inc.
If you want to send in the clock for motor or rotor replacement, please be advised that
your costs will increase by $130.00 with everything else staying the same. The increase
covers the increase in return shipping and insurance and includes my labor charge of $100.00
for the replacement service. I can ship at that price for clocks up to 22" long ($400.00 total).
Overhaul Jefferson clock motor $250.00 (A 2-year warranty)
Labor and cleaning of movement $100.00 (No warranty because this is not an overhaul)
Return shipping and handling $50.00
Total $400.00
The above assumes you ship the entire clock and does not include a warranty on the
movement (mechanism) because that may need to be overhauled as well. Most times the
movement does not need to be overhauled but if it did then you're looking at an
additional $400.00 for a possible total of $700.00, then the movement would have the
same 2-year warranty as the motor.
My turnaround is 4 to 6 weeks for motor service, 6 to 8 months if the clock is sent
with the motor, or if the movement is overhauled.
I no longer offer expedited service.
All checks must be made out to Mike Murray because I gave up my business checking.
I'll not ship the motor until I received payment. I accept personal checks,
certified checks, or company checks for payment but repeat customers may use
personal checks. Normally shipping takes place one week or so after I receive
payment and thanks! If you use a personal check then please allow 10 days
before shipping to allow the check to clear.
One thing you can do before you send in the motor is to take a Multimeter or
Volt/Ohm meter, these are less than $10.00 at any hardware store, and with no
current on the motor, set the meter to Ohms and touch the two leads to the end
of the wires or the posts where the wires connect and see if you get a reading.
Just about any reading is a good one. The motor does not have to be running to
perform this test. But if you get no reading what-so-ever then the motor's coil is
dead and I cannot repair your motor. You should still send it in because I may have
an identical one in inventory that I can rebuild.
It is extremely important you test the coil before you send the motor and
please contact me before you send a motor with a dead coil.
If you get a reading, then plug it in for at least 4 hours and see how hot
the motor gets. The motor does not have to be running to perform this heat test.
If you can hold it with your fingers for 10 seconds without being burned then the
coil would be good enough to rebuilt the motor around it. If you can't then it's
not rebuildable because there are too many shorts in the coil and the motor would
not have enough torque to last or perhaps not run at all.
You can always have me clean and lubricate a motor that is running too hot.
The "catch" is that I will not warranty nor guarantee it will work more that
a few minutes and the $270.00 will NOT be applicable to any future work even if it
is to replace that very same now non-working motor. Some have taken this chance and
it has worked out but that is a chance that you will be taking if you go that route.
Even with a dead (open) reading on the Ohm meter, there is still the possibility
that I can obtain a new International Register motor with the same RPM output shaft
except that shaft is a smaller diameter and I'll have to solder your old output pinion
(gear) onto the new shaft. That is a possibility and I have done that in the past
and this service add $150.00 for a total of $400.00 plus shipping ($500.00 if you
send the entire clock) with the same 2-year warranty and guaranteed to operate
your clock at the correct speed. This does not work with flip digit clocks because
the new motors turn in the opposite direction.
On these new motors, you should be aware that they run very hot. Nothing I
can do about that and if they are mounted onto plastic you may have a problem but
they are new motors but be aware. They would not pass my heat test already mentioned.
Also they are .18″ higher or thicker if you will. The length and width are the
same as are the alignment of the holes but they are .18″ higher, so if it should
go into a tight spot you may have trouble with that as well.
If you don't want to test it with current, then I'll be happy to and do that
right off when the motor is received, so you'll know what we're dealing with.
I prefer you do it and perhaps save us both some time and effort.
**One note: If your Golden Hour clock is running fast or slow then, most likely,
the glass is no longer properly glued to the chapter ring that is driven by the motor.
Back in stock.
***Second note: I have new stock of brass chains for the Golden Suspense. Over time
the chain stretches out and the clock no longer keeps accurate time but with one
of these chains, the clock will keep accurate time again. The cost is $100.00 plus
shipping, which is $20.00 in the U.S. using USPS Ground Advantage for a total of $120.00
or $123.65 if I send a Pay Pal invoice, so you can use a credit card.
These are the last of the new brass chain. 5 in stock. All of my future orders will be steel.
Your check must be made out to Mike Murray.
For return shipping I use USPS for all shipping. If you want
to use another carrier then you will have to arrange everything for shipping,
meaning I hand the box to the driver, get a receipt and nothing else.
If, for any reason, I cannot rebuild your motor or I cannot salvage an
exact substitute, then I'll return your motor at no charge what-so-ever.
All checks must be made out to Mike Murray because I gave up my business checking.
I would like payment by, certified check, personal check, business check,
or through Pay Pal or Square, which is the only way I take credit cards. I
do prefer a check over Pay Pal or Square because Pay Pal and Square take 3%.
The 3% is added to the total bill if you use a credit card.
With either Pay Pal or Square, I will send an invoice to your E-mail
address. Here you are dealing directly with either service and not me.
You do not have to be a member of Pay Pal or Square in order to issue a payment but
the 3% will be added to your total bill.
All of the added fees are exactly what either service charges me for taking your
credit card.
My main Web site is located at http://www.atmosman.com/
Main FTP site is located at http://www.atmosman.com/earthpdf.html
Respectfully,
Michael P. Murray
Memberships Include:
National Association of Watch & Clock Collectors
An Internet private E-mailing list called Clocksmiths
N.A.W.C.C. National 400-day Clock Chapter # 168
A service from, E-mail address: Mike@telechron.us
Mike Murray Founder of Clocksmiths
A specialist in Atmos and 400-day clock repair.
Also, I overhaul most plug in electric clocks.
In continuous service since 04/01/1982.
Mike's Clock Clinic Memberships: Clocksmiths & NAWCC
P. O. Box 562
1151 D Street
Fossil, OR 97830-0562
Phone: 541-370-2440
My main Web site is located at http://www.atmosman.com/
Main FTP site is located at http://www.atmosman.com/earthpdf.html
Memberships: Clocksmiths; NAWCC
N.A.W.C.C. International 400-day Clock Chapter # 168
Published in Chapter 168's "Torsion Times"
Published in AWCI's "Horological Times"
Formally AWCI's 400-day (Anniversary) clock Bench Course Instructor!
Please do NOT call or E-mail unless you have read this entire Web page
E-mail address: Mike@telechron.us (Preferred contact method)
My business is rebuilding your original motor, when possible. I am able to rebuilt all Jefferson "Golden" motors. All of these motors cost $250.00 plus $20.00 priority mail (Canada is $45.00) and has a 2-year warranty, which brings your total cost to $270.00. This is only for the older original clock motor which were made by International Register and some Intermatic. The internal coil does short out over time and even if your motor passes the heat test, (details below) I cannot be positive that your coil has the strength to do its job. Therefore with any original motor I can only offer 1/2 ($125.00) refund should it fail during the 2-year warranty. If I have another in stock, then I will offer to try another but that would be the end of the warranty because I cannot offer a warranty in perpetude on these old motors. I try and rebuild your old motor but if that's not possible then I may have a old original motor and that would add $100.00 for a total of $370.00 which included the $20.00 shipping and handling. I do not know of any substitute. For the Original Golden Hour Motors please click on the preceding link to go to Timesavers, Inc. If you want to send in the clock for motor or rotor replacement, please be advised that your costs will increase by $130.00 with everything else staying the same. The increase covers the increase in return shipping and insurance and includes my labor charge of $100.00 for the replacement service. I can ship at that price for clocks up to 22" long ($400.00 total). Overhaul Jefferson clock motor $250.00 (A 2-year warranty) Labor and cleaning of movement $100.00 (No warranty because this is not an overhaul) Return shipping and handling $50.00 Total $400.00 The above assumes you ship the entire clock and does not include a warranty on the movement (mechanism) because that may need to be overhauled as well. Most times the movement does not need to be overhauled but if it did then you're looking at an additional $400.00 for a possible total of $700.00, then the movement would have the same 2-year warranty as the motor. My turnaround is 4 to 6 weeks for motor service, 6 to 8 months if the clock is sent with the motor, or if the movement is overhauled. I no longer offer expedited service. All checks must be made out to Mike Murray because I gave up my business checking. I'll not ship the motor until I received payment. I accept personal checks, certified checks, or company checks for payment but repeat customers may use personal checks. Normally shipping takes place one week or so after I receive payment and thanks! If you use a personal check then please allow 10 days before shipping to allow the check to clear.
One thing you can do before you send in the motor is to take a Multimeter or Volt/Ohm meter, these are less than $10.00 at any hardware store, and with no current on the motor, set the meter to Ohms and touch the two leads to the end of the wires or the posts where the wires connect and see if you get a reading. Just about any reading is a good one. The motor does not have to be running to perform this test. But if you get no reading what-so-ever then the motor's coil is dead and I cannot repair your motor. You should still send it in because I may have an identical one in inventory that I can rebuild. It is extremely important you test the coil before you send the motor and please contact me before you send a motor with a dead coil.
If you get a reading, then plug it in for at least 4 hours and see how hot the motor gets. The motor does not have to be running to perform this heat test. If you can hold it with your fingers for 10 seconds without being burned then the coil would be good enough to rebuilt the motor around it. If you can't then it's not rebuildable because there are too many shorts in the coil and the motor would not have enough torque to last or perhaps not run at all. You can always have me clean and lubricate a motor that is running too hot. The "catch" is that I will not warranty nor guarantee it will work more that a few minutes and the $270.00 will NOT be applicable to any future work even if it is to replace that very same now non-working motor. Some have taken this chance and it has worked out but that is a chance that you will be taking if you go that route. Even with a dead (open) reading on the Ohm meter, there is still the possibility that I can obtain a new International Register motor with the same RPM output shaft except that shaft is a smaller diameter and I'll have to solder your old output pinion (gear) onto the new shaft. That is a possibility and I have done that in the past and this service add $150.00 for a total of $400.00 plus shipping ($500.00 if you send the entire clock) with the same 2-year warranty and guaranteed to operate your clock at the correct speed. This does not work with flip digit clocks because the new motors turn in the opposite direction. On these new motors, you should be aware that they run very hot. Nothing I can do about that and if they are mounted onto plastic you may have a problem but they are new motors but be aware. They would not pass my heat test already mentioned. Also they are .18″ higher or thicker if you will. The length and width are the same as are the alignment of the holes but they are .18″ higher, so if it should go into a tight spot you may have trouble with that as well. If you don't want to test it with current, then I'll be happy to and do that right off when the motor is received, so you'll know what we're dealing with. I prefer you do it and perhaps save us both some time and effort.
**One note: If your Golden Hour clock is running fast or slow then, most likely, the glass is no longer properly glued to the chapter ring that is driven by the motor.
Back in stock. ***Second note: I have new stock of brass chains for the Golden Suspense. Over time the chain stretches out and the clock no longer keeps accurate time but with one of these chains, the clock will keep accurate time again. The cost is $100.00 plus shipping, which is $20.00 in the U.S. using USPS Ground Advantage for a total of $120.00 or $123.65 if I send a Pay Pal invoice, so you can use a credit card. These are the last of the new brass chain. 5 in stock. All of my future orders will be steel. Your check must be made out to Mike Murray.
For return shipping I use USPS for all shipping. If you want to use another carrier then you will have to arrange everything for shipping, meaning I hand the box to the driver, get a receipt and nothing else.
If, for any reason, I cannot rebuild your motor or I cannot salvage an exact substitute, then I'll return your motor at no charge what-so-ever.
All checks must be made out to Mike Murray because I gave up my business checking. I would like payment by, certified check, personal check, business check, or through Pay Pal or Square, which is the only way I take credit cards. I do prefer a check over Pay Pal or Square because Pay Pal and Square take 3%. The 3% is added to the total bill if you use a credit card. With either Pay Pal or Square, I will send an invoice to your E-mail address. Here you are dealing directly with either service and not me. You do not have to be a member of Pay Pal or Square in order to issue a payment but the 3% will be added to your total bill. All of the added fees are exactly what either service charges me for taking your credit card.
My main Web site is located at http://www.atmosman.com/ Main FTP site is located at http://www.atmosman.com/earthpdf.html