Copyright © 1995-2018 Michael P. Murray & Mike's Clock Clinic Mike's Clock Clinic Memberships: NAWCC 1600 Maryland Avenue Myrtle Point, OR 97458-1508 Phone: 541-559-1090, or 877-286-6762 (Toll free) E-mail address: Mike@telechron.us (Preferred contact method)Respectfully, Michael P. Murray Memberships Include: National Association of Watch & Clock Collectors An Internet private E-mailing list called Clocksmiths N.A.W.C.C. National 400-day Clock Chapter # 168 A service from, E-mail address: Mike@telechron.us Mike Murray Founder of Clocksmiths A specialist in Atmos and 400-day clock repair. Also, I overhaul most plug in electric clocks. In continuous service since 04/01/1982. Mike's Clock Clinic Memberships: Clocksmiths & NAWCC 1600 Maryland Avenue Myrtle Point, OR 97458-1508 Phone: 541-559-1090, or 877-286-6762 (Toll free) My main Web site is located at http://www.atmosman.com/ Main FTP site is located at http://home.earthlink.net/~atmosman/earthpdf.html Memberships: Clocksmiths & NAWCC N.A.W.C.C. International 400-day Clock Chapter # 168 Published in Chapter 168's "Torsion Times" Published in AWCI's "Horological Times" Formally AWCI's 400-day (Anniversary) clock Bench Course Instructor!
Kit Cat International Register Clock Motor. (WB-2080) & (WG-500)
My business is rebuilding your original motor, when possible. I am able to rebuilt all Kit-Cat International Register motors and the Intermatic WG-500 motor. As far as I'm aware these were the only two motors they used. The above Intermatic image (lower image) is smaller in actuality than the actual motor as compared to the upper picture. All of these motors cost $150.00 plus $15.00 priority mail (Canada is $40.00) and have a 2-year warranty, which brings your total cost to $165.00. I must have the old motor. If your motor's internal coil is dead, then I can't help you because I have none in inventory. Please test the motor for conductivity, using a Ohm meter before you send it. That is explained below and once received, if the motor runs too hot, in my opinion, then I can't help and will return you motor as is and at no cost to you if the coil is good, otherwise I'll ask for my $15.00 shipping fee or just keep your motor. A dead coil will be interpreted as you did not test it before sending and that's why the charge. The model # on the International Register motor should be WB-2080 and the Intermatic WG-500 motor. There may have been others used but that is the only one I know about at this time. If it's running so hot that placing your finger on the motor for 10 seconds would burn your finger then there is nothing I can do to help because I have zero in inventory. If you want to send in the clock for motor or rotor replacement, please be advised that your costs will increase by $85.00 with everything else staying the same. The increase covers the increase in return shipping and insurance and includes my labor charge of $50.00 for the replacement service. I can ship at that price for clocks up to 22" long ($250.00 total). Overhaul Kit-Cat clock motor $150.00 Labor and cleaning of movement $50.00 Return shipping and handling $50.00 Total $250.00 The above assumes you ship the entire clock and does not include a warranty on the movement (mechanism) because that may need to be overhauled as well. Most times the movement does not need to be overhauled but if it did then you're looking at an additional $300.00 for a possible total of $550.00, then the movement would have the same 2-year warranty as the motor. My turnaround is 4 to 6 weeks for motor/rotor service, 8 to 12 months if the clock is sent with the motor/rotor, or the movement is overhauled and expedited service adds $100.00 for rotor only service and doubles the labor on the movement overhaul. Expedited service take about 2 weeks for motor/rotor service, one month if the clock is sent with motor/rotor. I'll not ship the motor until I received payment. I ONLY accept money orders, certified checks, or company checks for payment but repeat customers may use personal checks. Normally shipping takes place one week or so after I receive payment and thanks ! I must have the old motor. If your motor is dead then at least I'll have it to match it to the one I'll use from inventory exactly. Using one from inventory adds $75.00 to the total and it to would have to be rebuild, so the time frames would still be the same. Please be aware that my inventory now consists of used motors and these motors must be heat tested and then rebuild before being shipped. This also means that there is the potential that nothing passes and then I'll not be able to help you. If that happens, then I return your old motor at no charge. So please test the motor's coil for continuity and the motor itself for excess heat, which is explained below.
One thing you can do before you send in the motor is to take a Multi-meter or Volt/Ohm meter, these are less than $10.00 at any hardware store, and with no current on the motor, set the meter to Ohms and touch the two leads to the end of the wires or the posts where the wires connect and see if you get a reading. Just about any reading is a good one. But if you get no reading what-so-ever then the motor's coil is dead and I cannot repair your motor. You should still send it in because I may have a source for the nearly identical motor. If you get a reading, then plug it in for at least 24 hours and see how hot the motor gets. If you can hold it with your fingers for 10 seconds without being burned then the coil would be good enough to rebuilt the motor around it. If you can't then it's not rebuildable because there are too many shorts in the coil and the motor would not have enough torque to last or perhaps not run at all. If you don't want to test it with current, then I'll be happy to and do that right off when the motor is received, so you'll know what we're dealing with.
Even with a dead (open) reading on the Ohm meter, there is still the possibility that I can obtain a new International Register motor with the same 30 RPM output shaft except that shaft is a smaller diameter and I'll have to solder your old output pinion (gear) onto the new shaft or epoxy a plastic or fiber pinion. That is a possibility and I have done that in the past and this service add $150.00 for a total of $300.00 plus shipping ($400.00 if you send the entire clock) with the same 2-year warranty and guaranteed to operate the Kit-cat at the correct speed. On these new motors, you should be award that they run very hot. Nothing I can do about that and if they are mounted onto plastic you may have a problem but they are new motors but be aware. They would not pass my heat test mentioned in the next paragraph. Also they are .18″ higher or thicker if you will. The length and width are the same as are the alignment of the holes but they are .18″ higher, so if it should go into a tight spot you may have trouble with that as well.
For return shipping I use USPS for all shipping. If you want to use another carrier then you will have to arrange everything for shipping, meaning I hand the box to the driver, get a receipt and nothing else.
If, for any reason, I cannot rebuild your motor or I cannot salvage an exact substitute, then I'll return your motor at no charge what-so-ever, unless it was expedited service.
The Intermatic motor WG-500 is no longer available but if the internal coil is still good, then I may be able to rebuild it. If I cannot then it is returned at no charge but there must be continuity in the coil, so please test it before you send it.
Please do not send any money or check with the clock. I would like payment by money order, certified check, personal check, business check, or through Pay Pal or Square, which is the only way I take credit cards. I do prefer a check over Pay Pal or Square because Pay Pal and Square take 3%. I only take credit cards if you are in the USA or Canada. The 3% is added to the total bill if you use a credit card. With Pay Pal you can pay me directly using "friends and family" where you absorb all fees and I'm paid the full amount. There would be nothing added amount to the final fill if you absorb all fees. Here you log on to Pay Pal and send me the full amount of my bill, so there is no E-voice coming from me with this method and you will be charged all Pay Pal fees on top of my final bill. With either Pay Pal or Square, I will send an invoice to your E-mail address. Here you are dealing directly with either service and not me. You do have to be a member of Pay Pal in order to issue a payment but you may use Square without any membership or additional Square fees but the 3% will be added to your total bill as with Pay Pal. With Square, I can also take the credit card information which includes the number, expiration date and the last 3 or 4 #'s of the security code from the back of the card BUT that adds 3.5% to the final bill. I'd prefer to avoid this method but it is an option. All of the added fees are exactly what either service charges me for taking your credit card.
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