Copyright © 1995-2019 Michael P. Murray & Mike’s Clock Clinic Mike’s Clock Clinic Memberships: NAWCC 1600 Maryland Avenue Myrtle Point, OR 97458-1508 Phone: 541-559-1090, or 877-286-6762 (Toll free)
Please do NOT call or E-mail unless you have read this entire Web pageE-mail address: Mike@telechron.us (Preferred contact method)
Hammond Clock Motor (Rotor) for the Postal Telegraph Wall clock
My business is rebuilding your original motor, when possible. Most Postal Telegraph’s were made without a motor and the first section deals with those situations. The second section deals with customers sending in the Hammond motor or the clock movement with motor or the entire clock with a Hammond motor.
Postal Telegraph’s were mostly made with a movement that did not have a motor (as pictured directly above) and used a coil to generate an eletro-magnetic field that would drive an internal disk. This is considered a (Time Only) movement and an overhaul on a time only electric is $300.00 plus $30.00 shipping, assuming you only send in the movement. The movement overhaul does NOT include the coil ($100.00), so that would be added to the cost of the overhaul, if needed. If this is what you have and you send it in with the entire clock then it’s the same as above with shipping increasing to $150.00 in order to cover the additional labor and shipping costs ($450.00). Complete movement overhauls or if you send the entire clock takes 4 to 6 months. Expedited service takes about a month if the movement or complete clock is sent and adds $300.00, which in effect doubles the labor charge. The confusion is that the picture above is the back of the clock and Postal Telegraph’s with the Hammond motor look identical. It is not until the backing is removed and any movement outer covering removed until we know if it has a motor or not. I can and do service both and if you’re sending the entire clock, then it’s my problem and not yours. You can send a picture of the back and sometimes I can tell if it has a motor or not to firstname.lastname@example.org
Postal Telegraph's with a Hammond clock motor
Rebuilding these motors cost $150.00 plus $15.00 priority mail (Canada is $40.00) and has a 2-year warranty, which brings your total cost to $165.00. I must have the old motor. If you don't have the motor then I must use one from inventory and that adds $75.00 to the total and it too would have to be rebuild, so the time frames would still be the same. In addition to the picture above, these motors are identified by their 15 tooth brass pinion (gear). My turnaround is 3 to 4 weeks for motor/rotor service, 4 to 6 months if the clock is sent with the motor/rotor, or the movement is overhauled and expedited service adds $100.00 for rotor only service and doubles the labor on the movement overhaul (from $300.00 to $600.00). Expedited service take about 2 weeks for motor/rotor service, one month if the clock is sent with motor/rotor or if the clock movement is to be overhauled. If you want to send in the clock for motor or rotor replacement, please be advised that your costs will increase by $95.00 with everything else staying the same. The increase covers the increase in return shipping and insurance and includes my labor charge of $50.00 for the replacement service. I can ship at that price for clocks up to 22" in diameter ($260.00 total). Overhaul Hammond clock motor $150.00 Labor and cleaning of movement $50.00 Return shipping and handling $60.00 to $75.00 Total $260.00 to $275.00 The above assumes you ship the entire clock and does not include a warranty on the movement (mechanism) because that may need to be overhauled as well. Most times the movement does not need to be overhauled but if it did then you're looking at an additional $300.00 for a possible total of $560.00, then the movement would have the same 2-year warranty as the motor. I’ll not ship until I received payment. I ONLY accept money orders, certified checks, or company checks for payment but repeat customers may use personal checks. Normally shipping takes place one week or so after I receive payment and thanks !
One thing you can do before you send in the motor is to take a Multimeter or Volt/Ohm meter, these are less than $10.00 at any hardware store, and with no current on the motor, set the meter to Ohms and touch the two leads to the end of the wires and see if you get a reading. Just about any reading is a good one and the lower the better. But if you get no reading what-so-ever then the motor’s coil is dead and you will need a coil as well. I do NOT sell these coils separately but do as part of a motor overhaul they are $100.00 each, you would be looking at $265.00, which includes the rebuilt motor, the replacement coil, a 2-year warranty on each and return shipping in the US. This assumes you are sending only the movement. If you send the entire clock then it’s $360.00.
For return shipping I use USPS for all motor shipping and UPS for complete clock shipping. If you want to use another carrier then you will have to arrange everything for shipping, meaning I hand the box to the driver, get a receipt and nothing else. If, for any reason, I cannot rebuild your motor or I cannot salvage an exact substitute, then I’ll return your motor at no charge what-so-ever, unless you send the entire clock, then I charge for return shipping, which is usually $50.00 to $75.00.
The picture above is the back of the first movement used in the Postal Telegraph and I DO NOT work on these but do work on all that were made after that because they contain either a clock motor or a magnetically driven disk. The above was only used in the first production in the late 1920’s and all others have a motor or disk and were make in the 1930’s. Hammond produced clocks from 1928 to 1941.
Please do not send any money or check with the clock. However, if you are sending a Hammond motor only, prepayment is always welcomed because of the relatively short turn around time. I would like payment by money order, certified check, personal check, business check, or through Pay Pal or Square, which is the only way I take credit cards. I do prefer a check over Pay Pal or Square because Pay Pal and Square take 3%. I only take credit cards if you are in the USA or Canada. The 3% is added to the total bill if you use a credit card. With Pay Pal you can pay me directly using "friends and family" where you absorb all fees and I’m paid the full amount. There would be nothing added amount to the final fill if you absorb all fees. Here you log on to Pay Pal and send me the full amount of my bill, so there is no E-voice coming from me with this method and you will be charged all Pay Pal fees on top of my final bill. With either Pay Pal or Square, I will send an invoice to your E-mail address. Here you are dealing directly with either service and not me. You do have to be a member of Pay Pal in order to issue a payment but you may use Square without any membership or additional Square fees but the 3% will be added to your total bill as with Pay Pal. With Square, I can also take the credit card information which includes the number, expiration date and the last 3 or 4 #’s of the security code from the back of the card BUT that adds 3.5% to the final bill. I’d prefer to avoid this method but it is an option. All of the added fees are exactly what either service charges me for taking your credit card.
You should realize that a Telechron coil will effectively replace the Hammond coil, if the need should arise, with the same wattage considerations. A # 60 or # 14 Telechron coil work well.
Respectfully, Michael P. Murray Memberships Include: National Association of Watch & Clock Collectors An Internet private E-mailing list called Clocksmiths N.A.W.C.C. National 400-day Clock Chapter # 168 A service from, E-mail address: Mike@telechron.us Mike Murray Founder of Clocksmiths A specialist in Atmos and 400-day clock repair. Also, I overhaul most plug in electric clocks. In continuous service since 04/01/1982. Mike’s Clock Clinic Memberships: Clocksmiths & NAWCC 1600 Maryland Avenue Myrtle Point, OR 97458-1508 Phone: 541-559-1090, or 877-286-6762 My main Web site is located at http://www.atmosman.com/ Main FTP site is located at http://home.earthlink.net/~atmosman/earthpdf.html Memberships: Clocksmiths & NAWCC N.A.W.C.C. International 400-day Clock Chapter # 168 Published in Chapter 168’s "Torsion Times" Published in AWCI’s "Horological Times" Formally AWCI’s 400-day (Anniversary) clock Bench Course Instructor!